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german or swiss ?
Mar 28th, 2009, 2:11am
 
hello , � im new here �and am trying to �run down �what exactly this is that came into my shop.
 im thinking its a feildstutzer �but it has a single trigger  
 �She is missing a �wedge an barrel band . The stock �has some problems so I thought I would make a new one anyway  
 im also looking �for opinions as to its possible longer range �40 + rod �distances .
 
 any help would be greatly appreciated  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Re: german or swiss ?
Reply #1 - Mar 30th, 2009, 6:38am
 
ELG in a circle is the Proof Mark of the Liege Proof House in Belgium.
 
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Reply #2 - Apr 1st, 2009, 8:38pm
 
thank you david .  
 But im aware of that �,as well as the some of the other markings .  the 45 , has me confused as its  not a 45 but a 40mm  
 
But i have been told that both �Germany and Switzerland both � made and contracted these rifles  
IE the �1858 Jaeger Gewhebe �� spelling� ? �and the �Swiss �did the 1851 field Stutzer . Both countries � purchased barrels from Belgium  
 From what I have been able to gather is that the difference is in the triggers , but im not sure as I have also been told that �while the �swiss stutzzer �commonly had a double set trigger . Those contracted from Germany �did not ?  
 So what I was hoping is that someone could lead me to �an area I could further research this �that might lead me to more information on this rifle , as well as �something �that would give me a solider base for identification
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Reply #3 - Apr 2nd, 2009, 6:32am
 
Try posting on the forums of the Muzzle Loaders Association of Great Britain. These have a wider readership and might gain a better response.
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2009, 4:08pm
 
thank you , ill try that  as well
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Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2009, 1:46pm
 
Try the Muzzleloading Forum > http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/index.php . �Lot of people on that site and they love a challange (when accompanied with pictures). �Post in the Percussion forum.
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 5th, 2009, 1:21am
 
ahhh ohhh no ,  
 thank you for the link  but ill pass on that one  
 be safe
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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2009, 9:41pm
 
I like looking at auctions. Not that I would buy anything... it's just fun looking and I learn from it too. Try searching for online. these places have really nice photos and useful info sometimes.
 
 
http://www.juliaauctions.com/auctions/div_catalog_264_sh.asp  
 
There are Swiss muskets here
 
http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/RiflesAntiquePercussion.html
 
I like this one. also the Norweigan rifles...
 
Swiss Military Style Breech Loading Percussion Schutzen Rifle
 
 
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Reply #8 - Apr 9th, 2009, 12:43am
 
thanks you for the post . i have been watching the auction sites as well . you find  som good things there
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